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-Also English-speaking players can join our teams and/or trainings: football, futsal & floorbandy, even for free, though currently almost all players are Finnish-speaking. 5th & 6th division, hobby league & Men over 35 years. There are no age/gender limits in general, as long as your skill level is not far from ours (unless you are a child and essentially lighter than adults, for safety reasons).
+Also English-speaking players can join our teams and/or trainings: football, futsal & floorbandy, even for free, though currently almost all players are Finnish-speaking. 5th & 6th & 7th division & Men over 35 years & Men over 40 years. There are no age/gender limits in general, as long as your skill level is not far from ours (unless you are a child and essentially lighter than adults, for safety reasons).
-Further info: e.g., [[kalle.mikkola@iki.fi|Kalle.Mikkola@iki.fi]].
+Further info: e.g., [[jussi.palin@gmail.com|Jussi.Palin@gmail.com]] or [[KiloMukaan@gmail.com|KiloMukaan@gmail.com]]
 You can try to read the page [[uuden_pelaajan_ohjeet]] through Google Translate or the like, but probably the following contains everything necessary and will never become obsolete:
 == "I'd like to play some soccer or futsal. How to start?" ==
-A. I suggest that you join our training email list by **emailing (anything with any title) to
+A. Email to the above address and tell us what you want.
-kilo-treenit-subscribe (the at symbol) yahoogroups.com**
-You'll receive a confirmation message from Yahoo Groups (maybe into your spam folder). React to it.
+I suggest that, in the email, you ask to be included in our training email list kilo-treenit.
 Usually we'll inform on that list about everything except weekly futsal reserve playing opportunities, so see also C. below.
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 A. See "A." above.
-B. The easiest way to start is to come to our outdoor trainings. Usually we just make teams and play. See:
+B. The easiest way to start is to come to our outdoor training. Usually we just make teams and play.
-[[treenit:jalkapallo]] (or if that is out of date, ask [[kalle.mikkola@iki.fi|Kalle.Mikkola@iki.fi]]).
-C. At the end of trainings you can ask whether you could also join some official team or the like.
+C. At the end of training you can ask whether you could also join some official team or the like.
-D. In every case you can preferably (not necessarily at all) first send Kalle an email with some basic info on you (including a phone number) (and mention that this information can be shared with Kilo's team leaders) and mention that you've read this page (so that I don't repeat it). [[kalle.mikkola@iki.fi|Kalle.Mikkola@iki.fi]]
+D. In every case you can preferably (not necessarily at all) first send an email with some basic info on you (including a phone number) (and mention that this information can be shared with Kilo's team leaders) and mention that you've read this page (so that it will not be repeated).
 === In case it is late September to early April ===
 A. See "A." above.
-E. On Tuesdays, Thursdays, Fridays and Sundays we play with each other. If you are interested in playing also in 5th or 2nd division, you can ask about that once we have seen you (or before that if you are very good).
+E. On Tuesdays, Thursdays, Fridays and Sundays we play with each other. If you are interested in playing futsal in 4th division, too, you can ask about that once we have seen you (or before that if you are very good).
-The easiest way to start is that I add you on the reserve playing lists of our ordinary futsal "training" (read: we just play for 90 mins), which are
+The easiest way to start is that I add you on the reserve playing lists of our ordinary futsal "training" (read: we just play for 90 mins) in halls near Tapiola (Southern Espoo). Please, ask for that, too.
-Tue 20
-Thu 21
-Fri 20
-Sun 16
-in schools in Tapiola and Matinkylä (Southern Espoo).
-If you are fine with that, **just email me and tell that I can add you on the four reserve player lists: [[kalle.mikkola@iki.fi|Kalle.Mikkola@iki.fi]]**
-You can also add the "D." info above if that's OK.
 ====How the reserve player system works====
-Our system is that in each September people announce them as a default player or a reserve player to each of Tue/Thu/Fri/Sunday. The default players pay the something like 50 euros for each of the four. Later they announce weekly whether they are coming.
+Our system is that in each September people announce them as a default player or a reserve player to each of Tue/Thu/Fri/Sunday (or whatever are the current training days). The default players pay the something like 70 euros for each of the four they choose. Later they announce weekly whether they are coming.
 When there are not enough default players, the guy in charge emails to the reserve players. They can answer if they want to come (the guy in charge then answers, whether they were among the lucky - though usually most or all early answerers are, I think, and sometimes all answerers).